The Magical World of David Himelrick

Exploring The Villages: Magic,  Mental-ism , and Classic Cars with David Himelrick

In this episode of 'Open Forum in The Villages, Florida,' host Mike Roth interviews David Himelrick, a resident of The Villages and former college professor with an intriguing background in horticulture, magic, mental-ism, and psychic entertainment. David shares his journey from academia to performing magic, his interest in the supernatural, and his philosophy on magic as a form of entertainment. They discuss his seven-volume book series 'Hooks, Lines, and Thinkers,' filled with humorous lines for speakers, magicians, and mentalists. David also shares his passion for antique cars, detailing his experiences with classic Thunderbirds and a 1964 Cadillac. The episode combines elements of humor, curiosity, and the rich, diverse lives of The Villages' residents.

00:00 Introduction to the Open Forum

00:27 Support the Podcast

01:41 Meet David Himelrick

03:20 David's Journey into Magic and Mental-ism

07:45 The Seven Volume Humor Series

16:08 Antique Car Enthusiast

22:05 Live Mental-ism Demonstration

25:35 Closing Remarks and Supporter Shout-outs

Transcript

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[00:00:00] Nancy: Welcome to the Open Forum in The Villages, Florida. In this show, we talk to leaders of clubs and interesting folks who live here in The Villages to get perspectives of what is happening here in The Villages, Florida. We are a listener supported podcast. There will be shout outs for supporters in episodes.

[00:00:25] Mike Roth: This is Mike Roth. Thanks for listening. And listeners, I'm thrilled to share with you this podcast, which is my passion project for you. This podcast brings you knowledge, inspiration, and a lot of things that people need to know about the villages and the people living here. Be sure to hit the follow button to get the newest episode each week.

Creating this podcast is a labor of love. Even though it demands more time, I can easily spare. Now, here's where you come in. You can help us keep the podcast alive and thriving. How? By becoming a supporter. The easy way for you to support us is to visit our podcast webpage Openforuminthevillagesflorida.com. com and click on the supporter button at the top of the page or the purple supporter box. Even a small donation of three to ten dollars a month makes a big difference and you can cancel your subscription at any time. Your support means the world to us. Stay curious, stay inspired, and keep those headphones on. This is Mike Roth on Open Forum in The Villages, Florida. I'm here today with David Himlerich. Thanks for joining me, David. 

[00:01:46] David Himelrick: Nice to be here. 

[00:01:47] Mike Roth: David moved to The Villages about five years ago from Baton Rouge, Louisiana. You don't have much of a Southern Louisiana accent. 

[00:01:55] David Himelrick: No, I don't. That's because I grew up in Connecticut.

[00:01:57] Mike Roth: David lives in Osceola Hills at Soaring Eagle. He spent most of his career as a college professor at Virginia Tech, Cornell, Auburn, and Louisiana State University. his academic area was horticulture, which is a natural lead in for both magic and comedy.

[00:02:17] David Himelrick: Absolutely. 

[00:02:18] Mike Roth: Horticulture, okay. Tell me what weed we have here. you spent a lot of years in the education world and academia. 

[00:02:25] David Himelrick: Yes. 

[00:02:26] Mike Roth: Tell us a little bit about your life as an academic. 

[00:02:29] David Himelrick: I really enjoyed it, I think it's a great career if anybody's out there thinking about it. It's always challenging. You remain young. because you're constantly learning new things. You have a lot of personal freedom. Most of the time people don't know where you are or what you're doing. As long as you answer your phone calls and your emails and show up for class, you're fine.

So I like the personal freedom. You could think about what am I most interested in life and go research that thing. And I just really liked being on a college campus. It's a wonderful place to be. I like going to the library, walking across campus, going to football games, I really enjoyed teaching classes.

[00:03:04] Mike Roth: Yeah, we have one of our improv players, Dr. Bill Bateman, who moved to The Villages, and then he went back to Michigan, and is teaching a couple more years up there. He comes back for 12 weeks and he goes back to school. Now why don't you tell our listeners? What got you into magic, mentalism, or becoming a psychic .

[00:03:26] David Himelrick: Sure. Mike, my entire life, I was always interested in the strange and unusual. Since I was a little kid, I thought of things like researching, reading about these things. I remember UFOs a big deal when I was little I was reading about UFOs. And then I was reading about things like, the Abominable Snowman or Yeti or now it's more like and Bigfoot, but still the same guy we're talking about here.

Very interested in that and other cryptoids like the Loch Ness Monster and other things. Yeah, I actually went to Loch Ness to figure that one out. Yeah, I've been there too. Fun place in Scotland. It was. All of these things progressed and done other things. I began to get interested in, 

The spiritual realm, around us, you might call it ghosts, haunted houses, witchcraft, demonic possession, all of those kinds of things, not so much participatory but more investigative, which eventually led me down the road to the world of psychics. Because I realized that there were psychics out there using Professional magic tricks, and good psychology to convince me that they knew everything about me.

So I realized that I don't know all the tricks and the psychological principles they're gonna use against me. They're gonna fool me every single time. . So I started to read most people who get into what I call psychic entertainment or mentalism or mental magic, get into it, kind of backdoor, wanting to know.

They'll put something in their magic act that looks psychic, and they'll put something else in, but me, I went straight to mentalism or psychic entertainment because I wanted to learn all of those tricks of the professional psychic. 

[00:05:02] Mike Roth: So you think people who say they're psychics really are tricksters?

[00:05:06] David Himelrick: Yes, there, several categories of people that are doing these sorts of things. one category we would call shut eyes. a shut eye is close your eyes and believer. You think what doing is real.

convinced it is real. And that have skills and abilities to help people They're not scamming you. they believe they're helping you. 

[00:05:24] Mike Roth: A lady on our podcast said, She has worked for the police to help them solve cases.

[00:05:31] David Himelrick: I will tell you, I'm a skeptic, so she may have told you that. But I think I would like to get into it a little more deeply before I would say, I've never come across a person who can really do it under controlled conditions. 

[00:05:43] Mike Roth: One of my favorite things is show me the double blind study to prove that you're right. Exactly. That's science for you. I grew up with that too. So what event in your life. pushed you in the direction of magic and mentalism?

[00:05:57] David Himelrick: Good question. There were a lot of things that I was accumulating over time. And then I got into magic to learn the tricks of the trade of psychics. And I can make you believe, that I have psychic abilities. For example, let's say we get together for a party and I do a card trick for you.

it's just another card trick and you're going to forget it as soon as you walk out the door. I've been performing professionally for large groups. I like to do banquet situations. 

[00:06:23] Mike Roth: For how long? 

[00:06:24] David Himelrick: Forty years of performance. performance. 

[00:06:25] Mike Roth: means you were moonlighting.

Yeah. As a college professor while learning how to be a mentalist. 

[00:06:30] David Himelrick: Exactly. I did a lot of things on campus, and we had a big hotel and conference center, so I was hooked in with the administration there. They would recommend me to, people who were coming in for conferences and conventions, and I'd get hired to do those sorts of things, so it was a lot of fun.

I learned how to do these kind of things through magic, and how do I convince you that I can really read your mind, In one of my shows, one of the things I typically do, for example, I'm using different people, but I'll pick a guy out and say, Mike, did you ever happen to have a pet when you were a boy?

And you'll say, yes, I did. And I'll say, it was a dog, right? 

[00:07:03] Mike Roth: took a 70 30 bet. 

[00:07:05] David Himelrick: Eventually, I'm going to get it right. I'm going to ask you to write down the name of your dog on an index card, fold it in half and put it in an envelope seal it up and hold on to it.

later on during the show, I'm going to tell you the name of your deceased puppy. I've had people come back to me 20 years later. they'll come up and say Dave, I saw you 20 years ago, and you told me the name of my dog, and they never forget it.

If I did a card trick for them, they'd have forgotten it the minute they walked out of the room. That's the difference, the impact it has on people. I'm not trying to start a religion. I have a strong disclaimer up front. I claim no paranormal or supernatural abilities, but then I try my best to convince you that I have them.

[00:07:45] Mike Roth: You've written a seven volume set of books. Yes. On humor. Yes. Called Hooks, Lines, and Thinkers. Yes. Why did you do that, Dave? 

[00:07:59] David Himelrick: How that one started out had to do with Performing magic and mentalism because my style is humor I like to have a lot of funny lines thrown in because I think it can get slow or even boring I think I got to keep it fast paced and if you're not laughing I want you to be gasping 

[00:08:14] Mike Roth: Give us an example. 

[00:08:15] David Himelrick: A lot of things, I will deal with people, give you an example in the show I'll be walking around and you'll be sitting in your seat I'll say, for my next experiment, I need the assistance of a pretty stranger.

then touch you on the shoulder and say, excuse me sir, you look pretty strange, would you mind helping me out? Those things are fun. People laugh and then we move on down the road. I just really enjoy what I do. It makes me feel good. 

[00:08:39] Mike Roth: You make people feel good too. Yeah. Okay. How come you came up with a seven book Series. Hooks. Hooks. Okay. Lines and thinkers. 

Needed seven books to cover three things. 

[00:08:51] David Himelrick: Here's how it worked out. Writing lines for my show and every time I'd see something funny on a card or a sweatshirt or an internet site I would write it down. I had scraps of papers and boxes funny lines I'd written down here and there in no organization.

when be personal computers, I said I should put this on the computer. I began to write. Transfer those lines to the computer. But then I just had lots of lines on the computer instead of pieces of paper. So then I said, you need to categorize these things so you can find them a little bit easier.

Things for introductions, things for, if you want to joke about money, or whatever you need. How are you going to do that? I started collecting more and more over time. Categorizing new categories, So eventually, I'll tell you how big it is so your listeners can focus how many words that mean.

An average novel they're going to buy in the bookstore, about 100, 000 words this is plus 700, 000 words. that's the reason it's seven volumes. each volume, more like an encyclopedia. volume one has Pre show announcements. what funny things can you say?

It's not only for magicians and mentalists, it's for anybody who's a public speaker and has to talk in front of a group of people, or if you have to be the leader, And you need some funny things to say. Let's say you need to get everybody to sit down and take their seats. Got a whole chapter funny things you can say that's not going to offend them, but yet they'll get the message across time to sit down.

Let's say almost everybody, if you were the emcee of any kind of organization or show, And you've got to introduce a bunch of people for the annual award banquet. Where are you going to look for that stuff? I have huge chapters on introductions, funny introductions. 

[00:10:25] Mike Roth: How long has this been available in the marketplace?

[00:10:28] David Himelrick: Not out yet. It's completed, but not in publication yet. 

You will be able to in a few months, but not right now. 

[00:10:35] Mike Roth: And it'll be all seven books. 

[00:10:37] David Himelrick: Yeah, see, that's one of the problems I see with marketing this.

It's like buying, Mike, would you like to buy an encyclopedia? And you said, I don't know. But you'd have to, buying, A, B, and then you've got to get C, D, and E. Pretty much, each one of these volumes has a different kind of topical areas and things.

[00:10:53] Mike Roth: Let's go through the seven areas. 

[00:10:54] David Himelrick: well. 

[00:10:55] Mike Roth: Instead of hooks, lines, and sinkers. 

[00:10:56] David Himelrick: They're not really topical areas. the first ones would be the pre show announcements, then after that, introductions, Then the next set of things are your response to introductions.

What do you say if the guy gave a really long introduction, or a really short introduction, or everything he said was wrong, about you. All those kinds of things that you can respond to quickly if you didn't like the introduction. Then we go to the first thing you're going to say when you walk out to any group or organization.

You're on a fast track, so the first few seconds people are thin slicing what you're about to say to them. I walk out, and what do I say? What do I say to get your attention? I never recommend that people tell a joke, because they can't usually do a very good job at it.

Many people in the audience have already heard the joke. And it takes too long. A lot of people think, when I'm going to give a talk, I'll start by opening up with a joke. I don't recommend you do that. I recommend you get right into something clever, funny, and then sprinkle your entire presentation with clever lines.

Can you give us an example of that, Dave? I can give you 750, 000 lines, but it depends where you are and what you want to do. You need lines for many situations. It can get you out of trouble. For example. 

[00:12:06] Mike Roth: I just invited you to be a guest speaker at the Improv club. What's the first line you're going to use?

[00:12:12] David Himelrick: Okay. I'll tell you how I start my act. How's that? the guy or the lady has already read a humorous introduction that I've written. And they know what I'm going to do. I start off by saying, Are you, because I'm trying to program you about what we're going to do tonight.

are you all ready to have some fun tonight? I'm really happy to be here tonight. Actually I'm here because, Of a special program part of my prison release back to work program Just five more events like this and my community service hours are complete that's just a joke a little later on I'll do something that's not a joke so you can compare the two 

[00:12:46] Mike Roth: And So We talked about the first couple of books in the series. What are some of the other titles of the books? 

[00:12:51] David Himelrick: Topical areas. 

[00:12:52] Mike Roth: Okay 

[00:12:52] David Himelrick: I was designing it because I'm putting together an act or a talk.

It could be many things like dating and relationships. any talk you do, most people in the audience are going to relate to some of those things. So you want some funny lines about being married or dating. You might want some funny lines about money or banking.

You might want some funny lines about anything you could imagine it'll take you a lifetime to find what you want for your talk. And most things are not very funny. So what I've done is all the work for you.

Filtering them out and saying, these are funny, look at these lines, and they'll get to where you need to get quickly. 

[00:13:27] Mike Roth: Some of the older comedians like Milton Berle or Bob Hope, were rumored to have index cards with jokes of every type, some stolen, some re emitted.

They didn't have a computer. If they had a computer, it'd have been on there, just like that. And, since you're putting it on, in a paper book, how do we get to the parts that we 

[00:13:44] David Himelrick: It's indexed and table of contents, those sorts of things. There will be the hard copy and an e book.

On the e books, you can word search. So it'll be easier on an e book than it will be on the hardcover. But you know what the topical areas that you need to talk about for your talk or you see this upcoming event you're going to have. So I need a fronting line for this.

[00:14:05] Mike Roth: if I'm going to start a talk, For a bunch of doctors and medical people. 

[00:14:09] David Himelrick: You might want some doctor jokes, or doctor lines. I would not recommend starting off with a doctor joke, because most of the people in the audience have heard the doctor joke already. They will, politely, laugh at it probably, but you're not hitting them.

[00:14:20] Mike Roth: a real world problem. All right. Let's pretend you're going to do a comedy show for a Greek party here in The Villages. How would you get those lines out of your books? 

[00:14:31] David Himelrick: I have a chapter on performing for foreign audiences, 

[00:14:35] Mike Roth: to be Greeks. 

[00:14:35] David Himelrick: I would go to that chapter and say which things would apply to The Villages, which things would apply to Greeks, there's lots of section on, Old people, aging, birthdays, all that stuff.

I would go to those sections in the book because I know my target audience is villagers. And I know they want to have something Greek. So those two topical areas would be the first place I'd look. 

[00:14:55] Mike Roth: And let's hear a quick Alzheimer's tip from Dr. Craig Curtis. 

Dr. Curtis, what is the biggest limitation for Alzheimer's research in America? 

[00:15:10] Dr. Craig Curtis: The biggest limitation for Alzheimer's research is our shortage of patients that get involved in clinical research trials. For example, a couple of years ago, a report came out that showed there were approximately 25, 000 open positions for patients with Alzheimer's disease to get involved in research. Yet only about 7, 000 to 8, 000 of those positions went filled for the year. So every year we run a deficit in the United States in filling these clinical trials, which in turn slows our overall ability to complete the clinical trials.

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[00:16:08] Mike Roth: Now, I understand that you've had an interest in antique cars.

Why don't you tell us about some of the antique cars that you own? I know we have a lot of listeners who like cars here in The Villages. 

[00:16:17] David Himelrick: If you're a car guy, you know what I'm talking about. You just like them. I've been interested, since a kid, my dad had a few not really antique or classic cars, but everything we had was pretty old.

Now they're antiques and classics. My dad had a 1964 Cadillac and he got it. from a lady who was selling it, and it only had 1, 700 miles on it. So it was pristine. It is my father's joy.

Because we weren't very wealthy. To have a really cool Cadillac was the thing. 

[00:16:44] Mike Roth: Has a 64 Caddy. In his driveway on Long Island. 

[00:16:47] David Himelrick: Exactly. He never drives it. No. So it was my dad's driver and all those sorts of things, but when my father passed away, I inherited the car.

So that was my first real classic car. 

[00:16:57] Mike Roth: Do you still have it? 

[00:16:58] David Himelrick: No. I know where it is. It's in Louisiana, where we used to live. Down the road, not too far from Baton Rouge I sold it to a friend who had a son who was a great restorer of cars and they're restoring the whole thing as we speak 

They're frame off restoration. So it's going to be beautiful once again You own any? Antique cars now? Sold them both. Before, we were living in Baton Rouge for 20 years before we moved to The Villages. So I actually had two cars, but they were the same car.

for those of you out there they're Thunderbirds. the car guys will understand what I mean. They were called the Baby Birds or the Little Birds. In 1953 and a half, the Corvette comes out, and there's the first full year of the Corvette, 54. Ford Motor Company says, we need an American sports car, because General Motors is selling a lot of those Corvettes.

So in 1955, the Ford Motor Company comes out with the first Thunderbird. for three years, they remained small, with no backseat, sports car looking. We call them the baby birds or the little birds. Fifty five. 56 and 57. they changed slightly the style of the car.

First year they had a spare tire and they put it in the trunk and it's a fairly small car. the story that I heard, the guys didn't like it because they couldn't fit their golf clubs in the trunk. with the spare tire back there. So in the 56 they go to what we call a continental wheel. For those listeners who don't know it's sitting on the outside of the car in the middle of the trunk facing backwards and your spare tire is outside the trunk now but you can certainly get to it if you have a flat tire.

And then in 57, they kept continental wheel, but they moved the bumper back a little In 58, they start putting a back seat in. So you no longer have the American sports car. So if you want a baby bird, 55, 56, 57. My best, what I call the look was the 56.

It was balanced. It looked good. I had two of them. a white one, And a red one. I tried to sell them both when we were moving down to The Villages. One of them had air conditioning, the other one didn't. Not too good living in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, is much like living in The Villages in the summertime.

You really need air conditioning, fry out there. So I was able to sell the white one that had the air conditioning, but the red one didn't sell. So I trailered it down here. And I had it in my garage, but it didn't have air conditioning. 

So I went to a car show and round the corner of one of the squares up there, Spanish Springs I guess, I'm getting a paper out to write on it saying for sale. this guy comes up to me and says, what are you doing? I said I'm putting a for sale sign on the front of my car here on the windshield.

He said, you don't want to do that. And I said why? And he said you want to join the Thunderbird Club. That's why. So he was the president of the Thunderbird Club, taught me how to do it. I kept my car for longer than I intended to, because I knew these guys would know how to get things repaired and who to go to and who can work on old cars and know what they're doing.

[00:19:42] Mike Roth: So did you put air conditioning in it? 

[00:19:44] David Himelrick: No, I was going to if I kept it, but I decided It's not really what I wanted to do. So you got that for sale sign out again. Yeah, but it's sitting in my garage and one day There's a lady here that sells things that Kleenex boxes and on the top of these clean boxes It makes it look like a couch so that the Kleenex is pulling out the center of the couch and she's covering it with all Of these professional football team logos.

So We decided to buy one for my relatives in Pittsburgh who are big Pittsburgh Steelers fans I can understand that so we bought several of them, she said I'll bring them over to your house. one day she's knocked on the door and She said well, here's your boxes you ordered me, her boyfriend sitting in a car In my driveway and my garage doors up he looks and my car in there.

And I went out to say, hi, you want to come in? He said, no, but I want to tell me about your car. And I said come on, I'll show you the car. So I showed him the car And I said, it's for sale. And he said, no, really? He said, yeah. You want to go for a ride sometime? He did, and he goes for the ride, he really likes it, and ends up buying the car, which was really good because I didn't have space enough in my garage to fit all these things.

But I miss it. You fall in love with your cars, just like you fall in love with your wife, and you don't want to get rid of either one. Still got my wife, but I don't have my cars. 

[00:20:51] Mike Roth: I've given up falling in love with my cars. And I like to get rid of them before they have 13 years of age.

[00:20:58] David Himelrick: Boys have their toys, and those are my toys. 

[00:21:01] Mike Roth: Yeah, 

Are you thinking of getting another one? 

[00:21:03] David Himelrick: No, I think I'm really out of the classic car business. I really think that I'm into other things right now you, car guys know what I'm talking about. You've got to take care of these things, and you've got to know pretty much how to work on them yourself.

At least old cars. 

[00:21:15] Mike Roth: For new cars, there's a new event coming up. every other month at the Obsessed Garage. on Rolling Acres Road in their new location. They have a mini car show. 

And then they're going to take tours of the Obsessed Garage, including their manufacturing facility.

Oh, that'll be fun. They're going to do that every other month. The first one is tomorrow. 

[00:21:36] David Himelrick: Circle your social calendars. 

[00:21:38] Mike Roth: I'm going to be there. 

And part of the demo is Matt Moreman is going to give everyone there a personalized 

demo. on how to properly wash your car without scratching it. 

[00:21:49] David Himelrick: Alright. 

If I wash my car, 

I'll take note of that. 

[00:21:52] Mike Roth: The two bucket method. 

Matt is a great guy. He's been on the show. I can't wait to see what he's got planned for everyone tomorrow. As a mentalist. A magician. Why don't you tell our listeners what your favorite effect is?

[00:22:05] David Himelrick: Do we have time to do something for you right now? 

[00:22:07] Mike Roth: Sure, 

But they've brought a big black bag full of stuff. 

[00:22:10] David Himelrick: Okay, we'll do something with you right here. 

[00:22:13] Mike Roth: You know I went to the magic shop in Daytona Beach. Oh, you did? About a week ago. bought a few items I thought I needed, got home and I can't find them. . can you mentally tell me where I put 'em?

[00:22:22] David Himelrick: Sorry 

[00:22:23] Mike Roth: Okay. Get back to the place you were standing in. 

[00:22:25] David Himelrick: Okay. Since we were in Mike's, theater. Now we know what what do you call this room His studio his electronic studio I didn't see any books here. 

[00:22:34] Mike Roth: You put your sweater on top of the book. Turn around behind you. Okay, we'll book up. 

[00:22:38] David Himelrick: This one is called Fatal Sins, and it's from the Sumter County Public Library. 

[00:22:44] Mike Roth: Okay. 

[00:22:45] David Himelrick: , There's a page marker. don't take that out because that's where I stopped reading, okay? 

[00:22:49] Mike Roth: Okay. 

[00:22:50] David Himelrick: I'm going to give you a choice, alright? 

[00:22:52] Mike Roth: So why don't somebody take the marker out? 

[00:22:54] David Himelrick: I'll forget where I stopped, but I'll tell you, it shouldn't influence you in any way.

I'm going to give you a free choice of any page in the book. Okay. Good. for the listeners about how many pages in the book, Mike helps to turn right to the back rather than counting them. 

[00:23:05] Mike Roth: I would say about 280, exactly. 

[00:23:09] David Himelrick: All right. So what I'm going to have you do. it's more impressive if I get a big word than a little word, because if I get the ends of those, that's boring, okay? Don't say anything out loud to me right away, but turn anywhere in the book you like. select a long, I won't see where you are, doesn't make any difference, what I want you to do, but don't say anything out loud, I want you to make the selection, select a nice, long, interesting word, You got one in mind?

[00:23:31] Mike Roth: Yeah, I got one. 

[00:23:32] David Himelrick: Okay, close the book up.

Okay, here's what we're going to do, Mike. As you might imagine, you've never done this before, so I'm going to help you along. It's hard for me to get an entire long word. It's just too many things, too many thoughts, too many symbols, too many letters.

So what I'd like you to do is simply focus just on the first letter of the word, okay? And I'll tell you how this is going to work. 

Is this word that you're thinking of a noun that is a person place or thing?

[00:24:00] Mike Roth: Yes. 

[00:24:00] David Himelrick: This is something you can visualize. 

[00:24:02] Mike Roth: Yeah, 

[00:24:03] David Himelrick: What I'd like you to do is visualize Everything about this word. Sight, sounds, smells, colors, emotions. Things you might associate with this word. Okay, I'm picking up one of your thoughts. 

Just focus on the first letter, and I'm going to write what I think, I wrote a letter on the pad here. Tell your listeners what the letter you're thinking of is and see how I do. 

[00:24:24] Mike Roth: I found a word that began with the letter H. And what letter did you write down?

Letter S. 

[00:24:30] David Himelrick: Yeah. So I didn't get it, okay? But I might have gotten your thought. If I don't get the word. I'll try to get your thought. The S word that I got was the word scarf. Does that have anything to do with the words you're thinking of? Scarf, is it associated with what you were thinking of at all? 

[00:24:50] Mike Roth: In a very loose way. 

[00:24:51] David Himelrick: Okay. So you're starting with an H.

Think of the second letter, okay? Repeat it now over and over yourself in your mind. Just keep singing it again and again. That's really good, Mike. I'm getting an A 

Okay, third letter. Over and over again in your mind. Say it. N N. Yeah, you probably have it now. I probably have it. I'm going to write it down here and you'll have to tell them if I got it right or not. What's the word you're thinking of, Michael?

[00:25:12] Mike Roth: Handkerchief. 

[00:25:12] David Himelrick: Handkerchief. 

[00:25:13] Mike Roth: Handkerchief. 

[00:25:14] David Himelrick: Exactly right. You're really good at this, Mike. I think you have a career in psychic entertainment. 

[00:25:19] Mike Roth: Thanks for being with us today. 

[00:25:20] David Himelrick: It was great fun to be here with you. Thank you for inviting me. I really enjoyed my time.

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