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A New Understanding of Femininity: With Guest Morgan Wonderly

Mike Roth & Morgan Wonderly Season 4 Episode 7

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Have you ever pondered the mysteries of femininity and what makes it so irresistible? Join us as we explore this intricate topic with Morgan Wonderly, author of Simply Feminine - Surprising Insights for Men. Drawing from a wellspring of interviews conducted with hundreds of men, Morgan unveils a treasure trove of attributes men find appealing in women - the magic of a captivating smile or the allure of vibrant colors, and so much more. She also shares her personal journey of discovering the power of femininity in a world that often undervalues it. The revelations don't stop there as Morgan underscores the importance of admiration and appreciation in relationships, bestowing insights that can benefit us all.

Morgan Wonderly is the author of Simply Feminine: Surprising Insights from Men. Endorsed by John Gray of Men are from Mars, it’s a groundbreaking look at a rarely-explored topic: what men think about women’s femininity. Simply Feminine gives men a voice on a subject previously off limits to them. This eye-opening book confirms femininity is not weak, but one of the greatest forces on earth.

SimplyFeminineBook.com

 Morgan is also a professional Makeover Artist who works with women to help them bring out their natural beauty and femininity in order to give them a younger appearance which makes them more attractive to men. She uses the knowledge she gained from men in her 11 years research with them. She selects their signature colors, does closet analysis and personal shopping. She also works with men.

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 858-324-5544

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Emily:

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Emily:

In season 4, we have made some dramatic improvements and changes. First is a clarification of the podcast's title. It is open forum in the villages, florida, to make clear that this is a regional show, independently produced for folks who live in central Florida and the villages areas. Second is a dramatic increase in the use of AI in the creation of each episode. These include a transcript of each show. Please understand that there may be errors inserted by the AI that may not be caught before the transcript is published. However, this is a dramatic step forward. We will now include chapter markers for each show. The show description text will be AI-generated. In fact, the show's announcers are now all AI voices, including me, emily. Hope you enjoy.

Mike Roth:

Let's take a look at the background of the show. It is a book by Morgan Wonderly. Morgan is an accomplished author. She wrote a book called Simply Feminine Surprising Insights for Men. She says it was men who taught her the most important things about femininity. Morgan is also a professional makeover artist who uses the knowledge she gained from her 11 years of researching for men to help women bring out their feminine beauty and youthfulness. Morgan, thanks for joining us today.

Morgan Wonderly:

Thank you for having me.

Mike Roth:

Morgan. So how long have you lived here in The Villages?

Morgan Wonderly:

I've lived here a year and a half.

Mike Roth:

And you came from.

Morgan Wonderly:

San Diego California.

Mike Roth:

Okay, you weren't involved in the movie industry, were you?

Morgan Wonderly:

No, I wasn't.

Mike Roth:

Okay, we have several people who are SAG members and involved in the movie industry before Morgan. Why did you tell us how long ago you wrote the book Simply Feminine?

Morgan Wonderly:

Well, it came out in 2017. And it took me 11 years to complete it.

Mike Roth:

Why.

Morgan Wonderly:

I had a lot of work to do, researching.

Mike Roth:

Oh, the research.

Morgan Wonderly:

I was researching men and I had never written a book before, so there was a slower process.

Mike Roth:

What inspired you to write the book? Simply Feminine?

Morgan Wonderly:

Well, I was divorced in 2004 and I was wondering what to do with the rest of my life, so I hired a life coach and she was asking me questions and she said you know, you seem to be very feminine. You should think about teaching women about femininity. I thought, oh wow, Really, women want to know about femininity. I mean, I thought femininity was dead. And she said, oh no, they do. They want to learn about femininity. So I was talking to a male friend of mine and he said I think you should write a book and have it be from a man's perspective, because men know what they're attracted to. And it was like a light bulb moment and I thought, oh my gosh, I would have never thought of that. And I thought that was a great idea. And that was how it all began. And he actually helped me, gave me a lot of insights along the way, and then I started interviewing other men, talking to men everywhere.

Mike Roth:

I went to get their opinions. So how many men did you talk to to come up with your profile?

Morgan Wonderly:

A few hundred.

Mike Roth:

A few hundred.

Morgan Wonderly:

Yeah.

Mike Roth:

Wow, did you take written notes or did you record the conversations with?

Morgan Wonderly:

Written. It was written notes.

Mike Roth:

Yeah, so who was the book written for?

Morgan Wonderly:

Well, it was written for women, but what I found is that a lot of men were attracted to this information. They wanted to know what are you saying about us, and so I. Probably a third of my readers, or maybe more, are men, and I get rave reviews from men, so I guess good job.

Mike Roth:

How was the book distributed? Now, if someone wanted to get a copy?

Morgan Wonderly:

On Amazon. Is it one of those custom print jobs on Amazon? Yes, it is.

Mike Roth:

So I always like to add a joke into the show. Morgan, for my grandson, Evan Morgan, what do they call a guy who's really loud? What? What do they call a guy who's really loud? Mic. Okay, Now you interviewed several hundred men for the book correct. Yes, what are some of the things that you learned from men that they find to be feminine?

Morgan Wonderly:

Well, there were some things I was definitely surprised by. Like, one of the top things that a man is attracted to in a woman is her smile, and I wouldn't have guessed that. That just will tell you that.

Mike Roth:

Was that? I guess I might just hear when The Villagers dentists will tell you oh yes, gotta have a great smile.

Morgan Wonderly:

Yes, and I started asking women what do you think men said is one of the most attractive things? And they could never guess it either. They would say, oh, her hair, her figure, you know, but Smile. Hardly anybody guessed the smile, and so I learned to value my own smile more and started smiling more. And that was so. That was a surprise. I learned that men like to see women wearing pretty colors, and you know how. Women were just wearing all black for many years. Of course, here in the villages they do wear more color, but I learned a lot about that, about how it used to be back 100 years ago. You would never see a woman in black unless she was in mourning. Right.

Morgan Wonderly:

It's a sad color, it's a serious color.

Mike Roth:

Some people would say it's not even a color.

Morgan Wonderly:

Exactly. It's not playful, it's not happy, and so that was something that was surprising to me also. And then I learned that men really love to feel appreciated. I learned how important that is and admired, and that's another thing I talk about in my book.

Mike Roth:

We had a series of incidents of women in our improvisational theater club who came in in unusual attire with bright colors, and they stood out in a positive way.

Morgan Wonderly:

Yes, it does stand out, and I learned that the color that stands out the most to men because men have different vision than women do is red, color red. So if a woman is wearing a red dress, it's going to stand out more than if she's wearing a blue dress.

Mike Roth:

Oh, that's good, and I'm going do an Improv show in November. All of the players are going to be wearing red shirts. Oh yeah, we want a little bit of an advantage. What do you think the biggest challenge is, Morgan, regarding women's femininity today?

Morgan Wonderly:

It's the culture. Our culture has demonized femininity since the 70s, and so women. Well, I can speak for myself. I didn't want to express my femininity for years because I thought it was weak and the culture Weak.

Mike Roth:

How do you mean?

Morgan Wonderly:

that I think when feminism came on the scene in the 60s, it was.

Mike Roth:

So was it.

Morgan Wonderly:

Betty.

Mike Roth:

Cardan or came in on the 60s.

Morgan Wonderly:

Betty Friedan.

Mike Roth:

Betty Friedan yes, and she suggested that women have power and women would be independent. How did that affect women in general?

Morgan Wonderly:

Well, I think women thought that in order to be powerful, they had to be more like men. They didn't realize they're already powerful. Their femininity is very powerful, and one of the things that I learned from men is that femininity is the greatest force on earth, and that just blew me away to realize that.

Mike Roth:

Tell us more about what you mean by the greatest force on earth.

Morgan Wonderly:

But it's our femininity that inspires men to do the things that they do to build the communities and build the buildings and protect the feminine, because it's the feminine, it's the women that have the babies. They need to be protected and cared for so that they stay healthy and able to have children.

Mike Roth:

Dr Curtis, can you give our listeners one thing they can do to improve the nourishment of the brain by helping the blood vessels?

Dr. Craig Curtis:

Absolutely. Exercise is critical to maintaining healthy blood vessels and therefore healthy blood flow, as well as following a Mediterranean type diet which includes fresh fish, lots of green leafy vegetables, legumes and so on, nuts, and cutting down our amounts of red meat and sugar.

Warren:

With over 20 years of experience studying brain health, Dr Curtis's goal is to educate The Village's community on how to live a longer, healthier life. To learn more, visit his website craigcurtismd. com or call 352-500-5252 to attend a free seminar.

Mike Roth:

Morgan, you see any challenges today in women expressing their femininity.

Morgan Wonderly:

Yes, a lot of challenges. Tell me about it. Women still think that they need to be tough and strong and independent in order to be cool. Mm-hmm.

Morgan Wonderly:

They still believe that femininity is weak. For the most part, a lot of women believe that femininity is weak. They don't realize that the qualities of the feminine are vitally important in our culture and in relationships. One of the hardest things it is for men to hear is I don't from a woman, is I don't need a man, and women don't realize that. They think it's cool not to need a man. You know? Oh, I don't need you, I'm independent. I make my own money, I make my own decisions, I travel alone.

Mike Roth:

So subconsciously when a woman says that to a man, it's internal for the man.

Morgan Wonderly:

I can destroy the relationship.

Mike Roth:

Destroy the relationship. Mm-hmm, what are some good things that a woman could say to her man, friends or her husband.

Morgan Wonderly:

She can say words of appreciation Like, like honey. I love the way you think. I love the way you're good at math. I admire your abilities to be a Renaissance man. I love the way you take care of me.

Mike Roth:

Certainly some of those things may not be set enough.

Morgan Wonderly:

I love your muscles.

Mike Roth:

Okay, and I think some of the images in society prevents people from saying stuff like that, women saying stuff like that, with the whole woke movement.

Morgan Wonderly:

Yes, well, masculinity has been very demonized. And you know they call masculinity toxic masculinity. Well, it makes men even shy away from their own masculinity. But we need masculinity absolutely. We will die without masculinity.

Mike Roth:

Sure, sure. And whether a man wants to ride a motorcycle or be a lumberjack, women could do that too. And there are women who ride motorcycles at, our lumberjack Are there.

Morgan Wonderly:

Oh, I mean lumberjacks, I didn't realize. Oh yeah, yeah. Well, usually women in fields like that have a lot of masculine energy. They were probably born with a lot of masculine energy. So actually when I talk about men and women, I'm really talking more about masculine and feminine. And just like some men are born with more feminine traits doesn't mean they have to be gay, but so a lot of women that do those kinds of jobs have a lot of masculine energy in them. You won't find a feminine woman doing those kind of jobs.

Mike Roth:

No, probably not. They want to dress like men and work clothes, and they want to do the same kind of work. There was a woman on Tufford Snails this last week who was doing a job and she wouldn't take help or not criticism, but instruction from other people, and she wanted to do it her way and she lost miserably.

Morgan Wonderly:

That's right. We need other people, don't we?

Mike Roth:

Well, everyone needs to be open-minded, take in new information, because there's so much new happening in them. What are some ways that women can be more feminine?

Morgan Wonderly:

Well, as I mentioned before, they can smile more, they can be more receptive. Receptiveness is another thing that I've been told that men appreciate is being receptive to compliments and, instead of saying rejecting the compliment, accepting the compliment and just saying thank you, if someone says you're pretty, say thank you. Don't say oh no, or well, you're pretty too if you just say thank you.

Mike Roth:

Right. I've known some women who are always fishing for compliments about their appearance.

Morgan Wonderly:

Oh, you have.

Mike Roth:

Right, always fishing for compliments on our appearance.

Morgan Wonderly:

Well, the feminine does love to be seen and noticed. Yes, I think women feminine women especially do love to receive compliments. It's probably not attractive, though, to fish for compliments.

Mike Roth:

You talked about smiling. This weekend several of us in the improv club went down to Sarasota for the 13th annual improv festival, which was really a phenomenal event three day event at Sarasota. We went for two days. We took workshops on Saturday during the day, and Friday and Saturday night they had a new show every hour in five different theaters and at the end of Friday night my face hurt from all the smiling and laugh. Wo.

Mike Roth:

I don't think I've ever had as many laughs per hour that I've had, and everyone in the audience was smiling and it was really enjoyable. Smiling is something I think is good. Exercise those facial muscles.

Morgan Wonderly:

And that is something in relationships that's so important. If you can laugh together, it can cover a multitude of other things that aren't so great. Laughing together is so important, and so a man also loves a woman's laughter.

Mike Roth:

What about Positivity?

Morgan Wonderly:

Oh, my goodness, that's so important to be positive.

Mike Roth:

Oh, I hit on a big one there.

Morgan Wonderly:

And to be happy. A man looks for a woman who's happy because then he feels like it's going to be easier for me to make her happy, because she's already happy.

Mike Roth:

What about a woman who always says no first?

Morgan Wonderly:

That's not a good trait because it shows that she's a negative thinker and she's not open to possibilities and she's not curious. Or I think men love women that have a bit of a child, like curiosity and openness. That is a trait of youthfulness to be open to new things and say well.

Mike Roth:

I'll try that. Okay, what from a woman's perspective? What traits in men do you think women find attractive?

Morgan Wonderly:

Oh wow, a lot, a lot means I have a lot to say on that topic. In fact, I'm probably going to be working on another book called Simply Masculine Surprising Insights from Women. I've had a lot of requests for that, so a man, that is decisive he can make decisions easily.

Morgan Wonderly:

He is a leader, without being bossy or controlling, but he leads by example. He is a man of integrity. He keeps his word. He's physically stronger than her. She can count on him. One of the examples I have in my book is about the trellis and the vine and that the trellis represents masculinity, masculine energy in its purest form. The vine represents feminine energy. The vine is beautiful and flowing and ever-changing. The trellis is there to bring stability and support and structure, because without the trellis, the vine would be trampled on the ground. It would have no.

Mike Roth:

No way to go.

Morgan Wonderly:

No way to go, no structure. I think that's something that women look for is a man that gives her some stability and structure so that she can be free in her femininity to be playful and emotional, and she'll feel safe with his being within that structure.

Mike Roth:

Probably 10 or 15 years ago, a book was published called Men o From rsa as Women of From Venus. I'm sure you've read that.

Morgan Wonderly:

Well, I love John Gray and in fact he endorsed my book.

Mike Roth:

Really.

Morgan Wonderly:

Uh-huh, yes, he even. When it was finished, I sent him a copy and he even called me to say this is a wonderful book. He said, every woman needs to read your book.

Mike Roth:

Right right. I read his book when I was teaching salespeople and company owners management and leadership trainings and I thought it was a terrific book and explain the language difference between men and women, which was really important for people to understand.

Morgan Wonderly:

Absolutely. I think before John Gray we really didn't know many of the differences between the masculine and feminine and I think a lot of people get divorced or split up because of misunderstandings because of the two the masculine and feminine. So if we understand each other, our relationships will be way better and there will be fewer divorces, fewer breakups.

Mike Roth:

So do you talk to various singles clubs in The Villages or women's clubs in the villages?

Morgan Wonderly:

I haven't yet since I've been here. Yeah, but that is something that I intend to do.

Mike Roth:

So you're still in the first two years that you're here in the villages. How many clubs or organizations have you joined?

Morgan Wonderly:

I've only joined one so far and it's the Vintage Jewelry Club, which is really a fun club for ladies. It's all about jewelry and I love jewelry and that's part of the feminine in me, I guess, and just some wonderful women there that bring jewelry and that you can purchase and then they give a talk on different vintage jewelry.

Mike Roth:

Are you wearing vintage jewelry? Now I actually am. Tell our audience about the necklace that you wear, Well.

Morgan Wonderly:

I got this at a thrift store. I am big on thrift stores and I take women's shopping, by the way, and mostly where I take them to is consignment stores and thrift stores, and that's where I buy all my jewelry and it's a very pretty necklace I would call it almost red. Yeah, it's actually a hot pink. Hot pink, yes.

Mike Roth:

That's the first year I was here in the villages. I joined 19 clubs. Oh wow, At least I might have been 20 or 20.

Morgan Wonderly:

I haven't done that yet, but I do a lot of socializing. Actually, I'm part of two clubs. I've also been part of single in the villages.

Mike Roth:

You'll have to take an announcement back to them that the Improv club show was coming up November 7th.

Morgan Wonderly:

That would be fun.

Mike Roth:

I think there were about 20 members of that club at the last show in February. But it's a very funny show. It's only for people who like to laugh.

Morgan Wonderly:

Sometimes it's laughing at you. I'd love to laugh, that would be fun.

Mike Roth:

And you have to smile when you laugh, did you know?

Morgan Wonderly:

that.

Speaker 8:

That's true, you can't help it.

Mike Roth:

Right, so I think we had a lot of fun here today during this little talk. Is there anything else you'd like to add? Morgan?

Morgan Wonderly:

Yes, go. I work with women. I'm a makeover artist. I've been actually doing makeovers since the 70s and I do color analysis. I go to their home, I do their colors. I go through their closets, doing a wardrobe analysis in their closet, and clean out things that aren't working. And then I take them shopping. I actually go shopping for them, pick out some things, have them meet me, they try things on and decide what they want to buy. And then we get together after that and we put it all together with the jewelry. Oh, and I also do makeup lesson and a hair lesson. It's a total transformational makeover. Oh, that's good. And with the theme being femininity being more feminine, because that makes us look more youthful.

Mike Roth:

So do you have a website where people can see the makeovers?

Morgan Wonderly:

Yes, it's makeoversbymorgancom and my book website is simplyfemininebookcom.

Mike Roth:

And if you want to get a copy of your book Simply Feminine, they go to amazoncom.

Morgan Wonderly:

Yes, and I also have an audio book.

Mike Roth:

Oh, the book is both audio and that's really important I think so.

Morgan Wonderly:

I sell a lot of the audio books.

Mike Roth:

Yeah, is that on Audible?

Morgan Wonderly:

It is.

Mike Roth:

And did you record that yourself?

Morgan Wonderly:

No, I actually had someone else do it, a young actress who did a beautiful job.

Mike Roth:

However you get it, I think you need to have an audio book. Other authors, authors are listening. Yes, Too many people like me don't have the time to read, sit down and read a whole book. But I can listen to on the drive back and forth from Sarasota in two and a half hours, five hours of a 15-hour book. But I won't sit down and read five hours.

Morgan Wonderly:

That's true. A lot fewer people are reading today, especially the younger people, and that's why I felt that it was important to do an audio book, because I think this is a message that young people really need to hear, that we need femininity and we need masculinity.

Mike Roth:

So, morgan, if people want to get a hold of you after they hear this podcast, what telephone number or email should they use to get a hold of you?

Morgan Wonderly:

Well, if women are interested in doing a makeover with me, they can reach me at this number 858-324-5544. And if ladies want to see my work and what I do, I was featured on the Village Newcomers YouTube show in March doing a makeover on Linda, so Linda and Jerry, and it's called Linda's Big Makeover, and that would be one way to see what I do in my work.

Speaker 8:

I got married last Friday, me and my man beside me. Our friends were all gone, we were alone, side by side. We were happily wed. When he got ready for bed, then His teeth and his hair he placed in a chair side by side. One glass eye so tiny, one hearing aid so small.

Speaker 5:

Then he took his leg off and placed it in the chair by the wall. I sat there brokenhearted. Most of my man had departed, so I slept in the chair. There was more of him there Side by side.

Mike Roth:

Great Well, thanks for joining us today. Enjoyed having you, yeah you're welcome.

Morgan Wonderly:

Thank you for having me.

Mike Roth:

Good.

Dr. Craig Curtis:

Thanks very much.

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